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Author Topic: [solved] a USB Turntable - use ardour not audacity  (Read 854 times)
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« on: January 05, 2011, 06:13:42 PM »

hey, been trying to record some vinyl with my USB turntable.  It works, I recorded a bunch of 78s with it but I moved on to some longer playing records and it starts dropping out and freezing after 3 minutes on.  Went through the possible fixes here
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/USB_turntables
and nothing really solves it...  I unplugged my USB mouse and all increased the priority, I even had it recording to RAM
since there's this forum I thought I ask before I plunged trying out every audio program in AVLinux, having not much idea what most of that stuff is or how to use it

what's another easy to use program for recording besides audacity? something slim?

edit:Ok, I get ardour is a program, but drat is there nothing really simple, I've gotta find a tutorial

edit: Ok I found the manual on my desktop telling me how to configure JACK <:o)  I knew there was a way to get this to work

edit: may day, this is the doubleV, I think I just hit the tip of an iceberg
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 12:46:35 PM »

Could you describe your setup in more detail?   I assume that this must be a USB1 audio standard device (which it pretty much must be, otherwise it is not likely to work in Linux).   Are you recording using Jack?   If you are using Audacity then you probably are not using Jack, but rather Alsa directly.   At any rate I would recommend using Jack and setting the Frames/Perioid to something large like 1024 and then using Jack-Capture or Ardour to record.
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2011, 03:26:26 AM »

got it to work, just had to setup JACK properly as described in the AVLinux manual
Setup: USB Turntable; internal soundcard; Ardour
I did a bunch of victrola 78's on audacity but it would poop after 3 minutes so wouldn't work on the longer records I later tried to record.  So with the options and not really knowing about anything besides LMMS audio wise, I plunged into ardour and got the monitor set up and the metronome turned off.

the turntable came with audacity that's why I automatically tried it, but in visiting their website pretty much disclaim all responsibility they owe to the turntable manufacturers.  Ardour was more than ample to run it.
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2011, 05:47:52 AM »

out of curiosity, what did you check as 'record' in 'gnome alsa mixer' to get it to work?
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2011, 10:32:15 PM »

It didn't matter what I did in the mixer once jack was setup with alsa, and I had the USB interface setup in settings of qJACKctl.  All I had to have checked was the main sound out

edit: Ardour handled the sound output when I turned on the monitor and piped through Jack....

edit2:alternatively one turns on the hardware monitor option in configurating the thing in setup, then route through system outputs in the connections screen, but you probably know all this, just took me this last hour to figure this out and I'd been messing with midi all day trying to get qsynth to make a sound, this is why I mentioned that iceberg...  I can see the thing calving off... what a neat distro... was really pissed until a second ago till I got the hardware monitors working... lol  u should have seen me, madly patching stuff through VU monitors to system:out and nothing, plus wasn't entirely sure ffado was working,  I did get the metronome out of a midi hookup, but on the interface's monitor, but to stay on topic, a nice thing to have would be a volume control on the USB turntable, and they even mention this on the audacity site disclaiming all responsibility, but barring that at least now I can patch it out to an amplified system or put on headphones if I needed it loud. 
you can find this comment @ http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/USB_turntables 

but audacity wasn't really stable with my USB Turntable, OTOH I do like it and am glad it's on this distribution for it's many other uses
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2011, 06:02:59 AM »

do'h! jack handles the audio - where's that USB coffeemaker when i need one?

hey, i've probably prattled on about this before but,
gnome-wave-cleaner ("gwc" in repos)
man oh man! if you're ripping vinyl (or just in general), it's hands-down the best post-prod noise reduction i've ever encountered. there are presets for click/pop reduction, and it's noise reduction is transparent. lots of tweakable settings as well

cheers,
abstract 
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