AV Linux 6.0.1 - Where Is It Anyway?

[GMaq]

Hi,

@mauriciocamara

Great news! Glad to hear it works... It looks like Kernel 3.6.11.2 will be the new default. Kernel 3.8 has a LOT of broken USB audio devices, I thought it was just TASCAM stuff but other reports are surfacing of many other devices as well...

@totalchaos

I'll be honest the term 'yesterdays news' isn't sitting with me very well..

Sorry to disappoint but it would be impossible for the next release on to be on Wheezy... Jeez how easy do you think this is !? The multimedia apps in AV Linux are 100% custom packaged by me from upstream, many packages are GIT builds and have things fixed in them before the user even knows they are broken, it's not like I grab a Debian netinstall image, install a bunch of pkg-multimedia repository packages and presto...done!

AV Linux 6.0.1 will have a current kernel and the latest of pretty much everything except for GIMP, it will have loads of stuff not even in a Debian repository yet. I don't give a flying snap about Wheezy or Sid or any of this other madness, what it is built on is not nearly as important as how it works! Actually Wheezy has managed to break both the default login manager and file manager currently used by AV Linux 6.0.X which is a whole other future issue...

Yes the reality is we have Wheezy... a new Debian Stable, believe me I am aware, and that will be acknowledged and addressed IF and when there is anything beyond AV Linux 6.0.1.

[mauriciocamara]

I don't think that "yesterday news" would be so... appropriate.

We need to keep in mind that it is a *free* project. There are people here investing some free time developing this free OS that benefits us all... for *free*.

I don't believe that is fair to *demand* anything here: it's a voluntary project. What if AVLinux was simply abandoned, just like some other good Linux distros? It's not hard to find people who decided not to share their free time helping after some botheration.

If you can help... you are always welcome here. :-)
If you (still) don't have enough skills... Be patient. Everybody here has its own pace.

Respect.

[Leatuspenguin]

Long time AV Linux user, long time lurker on these forums, first time posting. Everything works so reading through the forums has been purely for gathering information.

Just felt I should back up GMaq regarding AV Linux still being on a Debian 6 base. I'm sure it wasn't meant as such but expecting AV Linux to switch to Wheezy so shortly after it's release is not very realistic. Sure it'd be nice but as GMaq said, and I agree with him, a working system is more important.

I used to be a distro hopper and was always looking for the latest and greatest with a stable base ie. trying newer distros for newer software but being frustrated with stability and performance. I love Linux but I'm a user and while I can and have complied software, I don't know enough to fix things when I break them. AV Linux solves all of these problems for me, up to date software and a very stable base. GMaq puts a lot of time into making this happen for us all.

It would be nice to see AV Linux move onto Wheezy but we all should be grateful to GMaq for even bringing out another release as 6.0 was supposed to be the last one (thanks again).

I really enjoy using Linux, even more so now with how things are going in the greater operating system ecosystem. Let's face it, LXDE isn't gaining new features like other desktop enviroments are. It's simple, does it's job well and is particularly suited to it's purpose, especially on AV Linux. We already have the latest and greatest software. I can't see any major benefits of jumping to Wheezy that can't wait. Also, as has just been confirmed, we will have a pretty new kernel in 6.0.1

I'm very happy with 6.0. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Until AV Linux, I hadn't been able to get a system running with the latest of the software that I needed with great performance and impressively low latency. As a Linux user, the novelty has worn off of having a new system every 6 months only to be frustrated. I want to get down to work. I think the most important thing to get out of GMaq's last post is that reliablity is the most important thing and he takes it very seriously. For the type of work that AV Linux is built for, that's what I want and care about more than jumping onto the next release for the sake of it. He takes a lot of time to make sure things work and that's why I use AV Linux, not because it's on the latest base. Also Debian 6 is supported for awhile yet

[mauriciocamara]

@GMaq

By the way... Windows recognizes the Behringer's device name as an UMX490 controller. Therefore... I believe that there is a great chance that the UMX490 controller might fully work too.

Thanks and keep up the excellent work! :-)

[mauriciocamara]

@Leatuspenguin

Flawlessly said! :-) Perfectly choosen words 

[totalchaos]

I don't wish to harm anybody, but it seems i'm doing it all day 

First of all i didn't 'demand' anything just HOPING that the latest AVLinux will be something more up-to-date, because i'm using it as a fill time desktop not only as a secondary "studio" system. And from the beginning of May, "Wheezy" is the current Debian stable (after a long "birth" period), automatically making "Squeeze" old-stable or as i called it "Yesterday's news".

@mauriciocamara : Debian's "free" refers to freedom of speech not free of charge. Behind Debian stays some big companies http://www.debian.org/partners/

[totalchaos]

I don't believe that is fair to *demand* anything here: it's a voluntary project. What if AVLinux was simply abandoned, just like some other good Linux distros? It's not hard to find people who decided not to share their free time helping after some botheration.

If you can help... you are always welcome here. :-)
If you (still) don't have enough skills... Be patient. Everybody here has its own pace.

Respect.

As long as AVLinux project is ALIVE, i will support it by fill-time using, promoting, testing and bug-fixing it (and if i "hopefully" have some extra money, by donating to it). After that it will become one of my "Nostalgia" distributions among JAD, 64Studio and PureDyne.
I don't think that a few good words will change GMag's mind if he has decided to abandon the project someday did i?

[GMaq]

@ Leatuspenguin

Hey there! Welcome to the fray and thanks for your kind words..

@ mauriciocamara

Thanks also for your comments and I'm glad to hear about the hardware support

@ totalchaos

It's not like what you said is untrue, however the way it was presented was not what I needed to hear, getting close to a release is always a bit stressful especially when there have been so many unexpected delays and I am extremely busy at my real job these days so I'm probably not as patient as normal  .

I will say this though.. words can make a huge difference, One of the big reasons I decided to continue with AV Linux after 6.0 was released is because of a great print article in 'Linux Format' magazine about AV Linux, this magazine was very kindly ordered from the UK and mailed to me by 'jjfro' a member here at his own expense. The point is that the editors at the magazine review all the great goings-on in the Linux world and very rarely are little niche independent projects like AV Linux ever noticed, the fact that it was and that they actually liked it was a great motivation to keep going and make it even better.. or so I hope

[mauriciocamara]

@totalchaos

You're right, you were not demanding.

Please do accept my apologies, I was not my intention to offend.