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« on: March 12, 2012, 06:57:18 AM »

Hello everyone,


I'm going to be setting up AV Linux soon and I had a few questions hopefully some of the regulars here may be able to answer for me,

In the past I've been a user of Steinberg Cubase.. so with the type of music I work with I've grown used to many of my favorite VSTi such as Toontrack Superior Drummer V2.0 and some of the Spectrasonics Trillian, Spectrasonics Omnisphere amonst other various VSTi and VST plugins. is there any way I can use these with DAW software in AV Linux?

if not maybe someone can suggest some good alternatives?

my audio interface is a RME Fireface 400, from the research I have done it looks like I should be able to get this working by using FFADO. Has anyone used these drivers that can comment how well they work?

Thanks,
Paul

 
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2012, 11:26:49 AM »

Reaper, wine, wineasio, and vsts without dongles/pace/macromedia etc usually work.
Specialty audio software like melodyne and autotune won't. I can use Native Instruments and IK Multimedia with reaper, as well as all U-he instruments, DiscoDSP, Alchemy, Wusikstation, EZ Drummer, Addictive Drums etc

reaper output is just another instrument to linux, so can be sent to more fx if desired,
and recorded alongside hydrogen sample-sequencer/drum machine, yoshimi/zynaddsubfx,
and phasex synthesizers, Pianoteq, Hexter-dssi dx7 wannabee, and the great but complex linuxsampler.

install wine
install wineasio
issue command   regsvr32 wineasio.dll
run winecfg, in the audio tab, choose alsa
in the /home/you/.wine folder, create the path Program Files/Steinberg/VstPlugins,
and copy vst .dlls there. For installers, the simple command
wine reaper4151-install.exe
Installing Reaper in /home/you  will save time later, as you
configure the new system.

Installing Trillian, Superior drummer etc is the only way to know if they will install. If they don't
trash the registry with convolutions, they probably will work. If they install to just one or two folders,
you might get lucky and just manually drop them in the .wine folder equivalents. Worked OK
for Absynth5 and Service Center (but there were 5 or 6 folders scattered willy nilly around Xp :evil: )

Start reaper by command  wine REAPER/reaper.exe,
have it scan plugins, and play some instruments.
The IK and NI standalones also work well for me.


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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2012, 11:52:49 AM »

Many VST/VSTi (and other windows programs) can work in Linux using wine.  However, not everything works, or works perfectly.  To install a windows program run the Windows installer from the command line line this:   wine <installer>.exe  which will install the program to a fake drive C which is typically in ~/.wine/drive_c .   (~ means your home directory) To run VST/VSTi you can use festige to run them in standalone mode where they can be used as inserts to Ardour and Qtractor (and other linux DAWs).   You can also run them as VSTs in Qtractor and GMaq's specially compiled version of Ardour (see http://www.remastersys.com/forums/index.php?topic=2049.0).  I don't have experience with the specific VSTs you mention so I don't know how well they might work.    The major drum machine in Linux is hydrogen, though you can also do drums with a midi sequencer like Qtractor, Ardour3, etc + linuxsampler to run a gig/SFZ.SF2 file of drum samples.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2012, 08:44:50 PM »

reaper output is just another instrument to linux, so can be sent to more fx if desired,
and recorded alongside hydrogen sample-sequencer/drum machine, yoshimi/zynaddsubfx,
and phasex synthesizers, Pianoteq, Hexter-dssi dx7 wannabee, and the great but complex linuxsampler.


Are you able to run reaper along with Hydrogen like running Qtractor or Ardour in sync with Hydrogen?  I've been trying to get Reaper to run in time with hydrogen but was unsuccessful.  Maybe I'm misunderstanding your comment.

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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2012, 09:30:53 PM »

xiLe

You have to be very careful about what is supported by ffado, they have not done an official release for a long time and support for new devices is in SVN, AV Linux uses 2.0.99 SVN 1995 and I don't plan on an update any time soon because ffado is very tricky to custom package and the version we have has been quite good and stable. I would suggest contacting the ffado devs at ffado.org to be certain that your Fireface 400 is supported by SVN 1995.

If it is supported it should work when you run the AV Linux LiveDVD.
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2012, 06:48:52 PM »

reaper output is just another instrument to linux, so can be sent to more fx if desired,
and recorded alongside hydrogen sample-sequencer/drum machine, yoshimi/zynaddsubfx,
and phasex synthesizers, Pianoteq, Hexter-dssi dx7 wannabee, and the great but complex linuxsampler.


Are you able to run reaper along with Hydrogen like running Qtractor or Ardour in sync with Hydrogen?  I've been trying to get Reaper to run in time with hydrogen but was unsuccessful.  Maybe I'm misunderstanding your comment.

Omar

I pack reaper with the desired instruments, choose the rythym track in hydrogen,
and connect the outputs of both to timemachine, for recording. So it is not traditional syncing.

Sometimes I use a vst drum machine in Reaper, along with hyrogen both at the same bpm setting.

Other times I use a hardware drum module to send midi beats to everything.
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2012, 08:11:57 PM »

Thanks for clarifying.

Omar
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