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« on: April 13, 2012, 12:55:57 AM »

Hello,
I just installed avlinux for the first time, and I like the package base very much. Lots of neat audio stuff to play around with that is new to me.

During the install procedure, when asked to open gparted and partition, as I was not sure what to select (I wanted to use the entire disk) I only unmounted the main partition but left the swap, the small unallocated space and the boot. I also chose the first boot option rather than from root. Was this correct?

I ask because the system does not shutdown correctly ( I have to force it) and also ufw won't init to enable automatically at start-up.

Should I do a complete re-install?


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Brian
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2012, 12:51:45 PM »

Yes the first boot option is the right one. ( MBR )

I don't think this will help your shutdown problem but: do you have a /home partition?

Can you shutdown if you use the terminal?
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2012, 01:00:34 PM »

Hi soppel,
Both when I click on the shutdown button, and when I do it from the terminal, it doesnt shutdown. It does run through a process, as though its loading. But then it stops where I suppose I should log in. It just stops there.

At least I got the MBR right!  Roll-Eyes


brian

PS. Should I use AVLinux just as a live DVD rather than install it to the HDD? Is there a difference?
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2012, 02:10:22 PM »

Update:
the shutdown went fine just now... for the first time!  Yahoo

So what concerns me now is that the firewall (ufw) prevents Iceweasel (and probably pretty much anything) going in or out.

Is this standard in this distro?


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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2012, 07:01:25 PM »

Generally when it refuses to shut down, it will flash a 'permission denied' error and dump you back to the desktop.  This happens when a process is running that was started with root permissions, and your user (who is trying to initiate the shutdown) does not have permissions to terminate the process which was started by root.  If you want to make this happen on purpose, you can (for example) open a terminal, type in 'su' and enter your root password.  Leave the terminal open, then try to shut down or reboot the system.  It will briefly flash a window asking for your root password, which will disappear before you can actually start typing anything.  Presto! You will now be unable to shut down your system until you either close the terminal or type 'exit' in the terminal to exit root.

There is no firewall standard on AVLinux, at least not that I know of.  I'm guessing you installed ufw?  I've never used ufw, so I can't help you configure it, sorry.  But I wonder if ufw is running as root and your user does not have permissions to access the internet.  This could also explain your shutdown issues (your user may not have permissions to terminate ufw.)
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2012, 06:07:37 AM »

Generally when it refuses to shut down, it will flash a 'permission denied' error and dump you back to the desktop.  This happens when a process is running that was started with root permissions, and your user (who is trying to initiate the shutdown) does not have permissions to terminate the process which was started by root.  If you want to make this happen on purpose, you can (for example) open a terminal, type in 'su' and enter your root password.  Leave the terminal open, then try to shut down or reboot the system.  It will briefly flash a window asking for your root password, which will disappear before you can actually start typing anything.  Presto! You will now be unable to shut down your system until you either close the terminal or type 'exit' in the terminal to exit root.

There is no firewall standard on AVLinux, at least not that I know of.  I'm guessing you installed ufw?  I've never used ufw, so I can't help you configure it, sorry.  But I wonder if ufw is running as root and your user does not have permissions to access the internet.  This could also explain your shutdown issues (your user may not have permissions to terminate ufw.)

Thank you, trulan. I think you're exactly right.
In fact, the first time (after the HDD install) that I tried to shut down (little button in the lower righthand corner), it said that I didn't have permission! Weird!
In all likelyhood, I was probably running as root, since I was probably also trying to get ufw to work.

Well, at this point, my HDD install seems to be working fine, and shuts down normally. The only "problem" is ufw, which requires that I change some settings to get it to work as it should.

So do I really need ufw?  Does AVLinux rely on some other system as a firewall that is sufficient without ufw? I just want to be sure that my system is safe..


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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2012, 07:02:06 AM »

AVLinux doesn't have a firewall by default, so if you want the system security provided by a firewall you'll need to install one.  Firestarter used to be included a few versions back, but it has been removed.  So a stock AVLinux installation may indeed not be 'safe' enough for your needs.

Personally, I do have a firewall on our family desktop computer (which is running a mashup of various Ubuntu flavors), and my router has some firewalling enabled too, so my laptop (running AVLinux) just runs as-is without any extra firewall.  I'm sure there are people who would tell me that I should be more security conscious.
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2012, 12:11:13 PM »

Thank you for your quick response, Trulan. This whole firewall thing is still a bit new to me. I used to use Firestarter; then I discovered it has been discontinuted.
So then I moved to ufw and gufw, which is really pretty easy to use. In fact, on all distros I've used so far (about 15), ufw is usually part of the standard package, and it just requires activation in the beginning and it goes fine. But with AVlinux, I've discovered that it needs to be installed, and it also needs tweaking right from the get-go.
Maybe it would be good to add in the next release?
Just a thought...

Anyway, I'll study up a bit on ufw and get it going in no time, I'm sure.
For now, the important thing is that the AVLinux HDD install went just fine, and I like what I'm seeing in it. Lots and lots of packages to look over and get familiar with. (My goal is to use my external synthesizer as a MIDI keyboard, through USB, to run the virtual synths that are available in the repositories. And of course, record my "noise" with Audacity.  It's like having a bunch of new synthesizers at my fingertips-- Neat!)
Looks like a good distro; I'm looking forward to using it!

I'll mark this thread as solved.
Thanks again,
brian
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